hegykc Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 (edited) Hello x55 users. I have finally gotten do making my F-18 grip project X55 compatible also. On the electronics side, everything is cleared up, I would just like to ask for some info before I go out and buy one these for testing: 1) Can anyone identify the thread size that connects the grip to the base. 2) Size/diameter of the male pins on the grip. Are they just regular pins that stay in place, or they get pushed in by the plates on the base. I cannot see clearly on the pictures available Edited January 25, 2015 by hegykc www.replikagear.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZBAM_ELMO Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 The pins push into the stick whilst the base remains in place, will have the thread size in approx. 12 hours least someone gets to it before me. 1 Know and use all the capabilities in your airplane. If you don't, sooner or later, some guy who does use them all will kick your ass. — Dave 'Preacher' Pace, USN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hegykc Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 They just couldn't go with regular pins.. great. Well, found those too, now just need the pin diameter and thread size. www.replikagear.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esac_mirmidon Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) I don´t have precision instruments but : Pin: 1.8 / 2 mm (+- 0.1 mm ) Thread: 3.6 cm (+- 1mm ) Edited January 26, 2015 by Esac_mirmidon " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZBAM_ELMO Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 They just couldn't go with regular pins.. great. Well, found those too, now just need the pin diameter and thread size. They had to be special. unfortunately with a capital R. Know and use all the capabilities in your airplane. If you don't, sooner or later, some guy who does use them all will kick your ass. — Dave 'Preacher' Pace, USN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hideki2 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Bump? How is progress on the grip going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_soupdragon Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Any movement on this? I see you have advanced your warthog grip thread but no love for us poor X55 user :) Would be fantastic if you can figure this out and start making us some new grips. Cheers SD [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobac Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Yes i'm interested too. Are you going to continue with this project? And it would be good to add various extensions to the pilot's stick. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Everything is possible ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_soupdragon Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Any news on this hegykc? I was looking forward to this project can you just let us know if there is still hope :) Cheers SD [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krinje Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 M36 x 1.5 is the closest standard, and most likely thread. (measured by myself) it is absolutely 1.5 pitch, very close diameters to a nominal M36. Something like one of these is the spring loaded pin: https://www.digikey.com/product-search/en/connectors-interconnects/contacts-spring-loaded-and-pressure/1442508?FV=1140050%2Cfff40016%2Cfff802cc&mnonly=0&newproducts=0&ColumnSort=1000011&page=1&stock=0&pbfree=0&rohs=0&k=pogo+pins&quantity=1&ptm=0&fid=0&pageSize=25&pkeyword=pogo+pins I don't know the layout or size of the pins, but I was also investigating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskay Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 (edited) I'm interested, good job With my digital caliper pin diameter is 1.87mm +- 0,01mm Edited October 25, 2016 by Eskay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krinje Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 On further investigation, the thread profile is also non standard. It is actually quite square (even more so than acme)rather than a 60* triangle. I Modeled up a test nut and printed it yesterday, while the print didn't reproduce perfect threads, support material being impossible, they where sufficient to work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krinje Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 I've made some more advances. I replicated just the engagement (no picture), and it fit perfectly so I continued and designed the rest of the male portion including the socket engagement, room for the PCB and the shaft. I also used the design for the test nut and designed a nut that would hold the socket as it should. Overall strength I'm sure could be an issue, but for now it seems robust. I'm going to complete the PCBs today (mill them), and then design the female socket for the top of the extension. When I'm done this I'll probably share my work through some open license for people to print their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobac Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Good progress, but whether it will be just an extension, or entire pilot stick? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Everything is possible ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krinje Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Right now it's just an extension, but I've had it in mind to make a custom su-27 inspired stick. Not as a replica, just a style choice. I like to keep my equipment generic and flexible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haukka81 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 I need one extension thanks , and maybe one su-27stick :) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Oculus CV1, Odyssey, Pimax 5k+ (i5 8400, 24gb ddr4 3000mhz, 1080Ti OC ) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobac Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Right now it's just an extension, but I've had it in mind to make a custom su-27 inspired stick. Not as a replica, just a style choice. I like to keep my equipment generic and flexible. That would be great! I suggest you open new (your) theme to help us track your work. Maybe you could make the flight stick for the F-18 also, because I think hegykc, now his project put aside. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Everything is possible ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krinje Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 I think you're right, I'll be opening a thread soon and start documenting (pictures) more too. Yesterday I did turn a 9" x .75"dia aluminium tube to fit the socket. While I didn't have the grip or buttons of any kind, I did fly the mi-8 with the end of the pipe and it was fabulous, finger tip precision. Just do to my personal setup (desk, chair, mounting etc) I think the best length will be closer to 8" for me. I won't adjust that until the extension is completed and I know it's too long for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_soupdragon Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Looking good. hope this project sees the light of day been wanting an extension for my X55 since i bought it 2ys ago. Good luck Krinje SD [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_soupdragon Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Any more news on this? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adri Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 anyone have info about this project??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Burns Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 Hegy has gone to ground for a while. We are hoping he is a phoenix or has been snapped up by a manufacturer and wishing him well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krinje Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 I've had some success with the extension and issues. To be 3d printed Nylon was a must for the replica of the base's threads on the top of the extension. With other materials the thin ring of plastic (the threaded part) would shear off. Nylon was not ideal, as it isn't very ridged but it is very tough, and very good layer adhesion. At 8" of extension, center play was considerable, but the center wasn't so important anymore. The heaviest spring was a good load. Fitting a PCB with pogo pins and fitting it into the extension assembly was very tedious. My extension didn't have a bend, and because the stick had to be so far away (base size), it was uncomfortable to use for long when center mounted. If I remember when I get home I'll throw up the models, it is sized for a 3/4" shaft + extra because printers/slicers tend to under-size holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v4ri4ble Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 I found this link: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1767844 which includes 3d printable models of both the female and male side of the proprietary connector. They also cover the pin connectors themselves. As to the pinouts, i've sorted some of them out. It looks like 4 pins are the 4 wire SPI lines from the SPI slave up at the top of the stick - SCLK, MOSI, MISO, and maybe a CS. In addition I found 2 ground pins and a 5V VCC. Finally there are 2 pins that are the output from the twist yaw potentiometer. That only adds up to 9, so I'm not sure what the 10th was. My next step is to hook up a logic analyzer and see if I can decode the SPI messages between the base and the stick and add something to the teensy usb joystick code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazyj Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 On 2/5/2018 at 9:25 PM, v4ri4ble said: I found this link: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1767844 which includes 3d printable models of both the female and male side of the proprietary connector. They also cover the pin connectors themselves. As to the pinouts, i've sorted some of them out. It looks like 4 pins are the 4 wire SPI lines from the SPI slave up at the top of the stick - SCLK, MOSI, MISO, and maybe a CS. In addition I found 2 ground pins and a 5V VCC. Finally there are 2 pins that are the output from the twist yaw potentiometer. That only adds up to 9, so I'm not sure what the 10th was. My next step is to hook up a logic analyzer and see if I can decode the SPI messages between the base and the stick and add something to the teensy usb joystick code. 10th pin may be a dud as the base for the x56 is the same and has a small joystick on postion C. but did you have any further on this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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