Status update June 2015

Or the armies just want a cheap(er) trainer solution then a full-blown sim. To practice the systems, all one need is the HOTAS and a screen, that's where VEAO makes its money I guess.

Those systems would need to be fully simulated as in RL and most likely contain classified things which, obviously, can't make it into the public version of a sim.

Also, IMO, within the DCS software framework, some (classified) systems can't be made since the software isn't capable of simulating it. In those cases, VEAO will work as close as possible to the real thing trying to recreate the system.

pman, do you confirm what neilwillis was saying, i.e. that you won't give any details about a possible military version of typhoon on DCS? e.g. why would armies be interested in a DCS simulator when they probably already have a simulator that would be incredibly better than DCS could ever be?

no worries if you can't say a word, i'm just trying to understand what the "situation" is

It all depends on what exactly you are trying to achieve with the simulator.

There are classroom based simulators for learning specific systems, and then there are full-blown flight simulators. You certainly wouldn't train systems theory using a multi million pound flight simulator when all you want to do is train people how the radar or targeting pod works. You would also not need a hugely expensive system to teach engineers how to run diagnostics on specific radio suites for example.

Were you aware that ED started the whole DCS World project as a result of their involvement with the US DoD for example? I don't know exactly what, and they of course won't be at liberty to say.

We do know that some organisations are involved in non-entertainment industry projects, and we also know that the details are not likely to be discussed here at any point, so we just have to accept that, and move on.

Thanks for the answers.

NeilWillis, it'd be a lot more pleasant and useful if you put that condescension aside and just be constructive. But well, "enough said."

yeah its close enough to the above really.

I am not at liberty to discuss the current training systems the RAF has or does not have only that we are able to provide facilities and simulations to them that they deem valuable to a training programme for RAF personnel.

The obvious big plus is that we can use this knowledge to make the most accurate version of these aircraft in sim that is outside of the military world.

All I will say is that if we were not able to add value there would be no military work for us to do, and the fact that there is should be enough of a clue.

Regarding specific systems we have to remember that these are live aircraft in defense of queen and country, we are not going to simulate anything that could endanger the effectiveness of these aircraft. Such devices and instruments are highly classified and will not be replicated in the public version, you will get a DCS version but it wont be true to the real thing. That is just the way with modern aircraft, if you want it in DCS you have to accept some compromises :)

Pman

Such devices and instruments are highly classified and will not be replicated in the public version, you will get a DCS version but it wont be true to the real thing. That is just the way with modern aircraft, if you want it in DCS you have to accept some compromises :)

Or become a pilot to get access to the Real Thing, what could be simpler.. :music_whistling: :D

Regarding specific systems we have to remember that these are live aircraft in defense of queen and country, we are not going to simulate anything that could endanger the effectiveness of these aircraft. Such devices and instruments are highly classified and will not be replicated in the public version, you will get a DCS version but it wont be true to the real thing. That is just the way with modern aircraft, if you want it in DCS you have to accept some compromises :)

 

Pman

No worries, if it gives me that EF2000-vibe like i got 20 years ago when playing EF2000 i will be MORE then happy!

No worries, if it gives me that EF2000-vibe like i got 20 years ago when playing EF2000 i will be MORE then happy!

Yep, first 360° cockpit view,even VFX-1 support (not that I could have afforded one). The first "clickable" MFD with map modes, "realistic" laser tracking and guidance... I loved that Sim!

Yep, first 360° cockpit view,even VFX-1 support (not that I could have afforded one). The first "clickable" MFD with map modes, "realistic" laser tracking and guidance... I loved that Sim!

Yeah I loved it too, makes me feel old to think it was 20 years ago.

The good old times, but for me they are still current. Reason enough to throw away my current rig and buy a new one to be prepared when this much anticipated DCS module hits the scene.

Will the Eurofighter feature a true to life flight model? Or will it be an SFM like for the Hawk? :(

Will the Eurofighter feature a true to life flight model? Or will it be an SFM like for the Hawk? :(

Ells has already stated that all airframes moving forward would be the advanced model... No more SFM from VEAO.. PERIOD.

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@Pman,

I think your PM store has reached its limit. ;)

True to life flight model confirmed.

True to life flight model confirmed.

Yes, sir! That is awesome news

Any news on how the typhoon project is coming along? Just curious.

Please see the September update :

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=147379

Pman

I missed that some how. Thanks Pete.

I missed that some how. Thanks Pete.

No worries :D

Pman

Guys, how works are going?

If you look 3 posts up from yours you will have a good clue ;)

Pman

If you look 3 posts up from yours you will have a good clue ;)

 

Pman

Oh, wow. Thanks.

I didn't notice it. :D

Looks promising :)

It must be daunting rewriting code again from code that's already been written down once before in the real aircraft ((owo))