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When they talk about using it as a replacement for the A-10 I cant imagine it will be used like the A-10, that the way missions might be tackled by A-10s might be tackled differently by the F-35 right? Too expensive to come back with bullet holes after every mission :)

 

As for lotter time, do you mean based on fuel it can carry or something else?

 

Fuel flow vs fuel capacity would suck compared to the A-10, I guess. Just like loiter time for F-16s, F-15s and all the bunch does (A-10s, after all, were built specifically for the mission).

 

And tackling the missions differently is great, I guess you mean more "come at 30 000 ft and drop a JDAM on target instead of going low with guns" (by the way, nowadays A-10Cs are very capable of doing the former), but what you have to keep in mind is that Close air support typically needs long loiter time because you never know when and for how long the ground troops will need you.

 

I think that might be what Paulrkii had in mind.

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Fuel flow vs fuel capacity would suck compared to the A-10, I guess. Just like loiter time for F-16s, F-15s and all the bunch does (A-10s, after all, were built specifically for the mission).

 

And tackling the missions differently is great, I guess you mean more "come at 30 000 ft and drop a JDAM on target instead of going low with guns" (by the way, nowadays A-10Cs are very capable of doing the former), but what you have to keep in mind is that Close air support typically needs long loiter time because you never know when and for how long the ground troops will need you.

 

I think that might be what Paulrkii had in mind.

 

Both F-35 and A-10 use TurboFan engines, so a slow F-35 at 3-400miles/h will have a great much more loiter time, than a plane With Jet engines.

Without afterburner, it would be very difficult for it to go above 40,000feet.

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Both F-35 and A-10 use TurboFan engines, so a slow F-35 at 3-400miles/h will have a great much more loiter time, than a plane With Jet engines.

Without afterburner, it would be very difficult for it to go above 40,000feet.

Most modern fighters use turbofan engines, some have higher bypass than others (more bypass normally means less thrust at supersonic speeds)

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Both F-35 and A-10 use TurboFan engines, so a slow F-35 at 3-400miles/h will have a great much more loiter time, than a plane With Jet engines.

Without afterburner, it would be very difficult for it to go above 40,000feet.

 

No.

 

ALL modern western fighters have Turbofan engines, and have done for years. The difference is that the A-10C has high bypass turbofans whereas the fast jets have low bypass turbofans.

 

The F-35 will burn fuel just as quickly as the teen series fighters.

 

Now you can get a reasonable loiter time out of the "fast" jets, but you need to be up high and quite slow to do it. And even then you're talking 30-45 mins at most, and that's if you reach your station either shortly after in-flight refuelling or have a short ingress.

 

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Turbojet engines are all but out of favour for decades. They provided excellent top speed but poor acceleration.

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Do you play A-10C? That's a game.

For the german pc magazine "Gamestar", DCS: Warthog isn't a game. They tested it in 2011 (or so) and came to the end, that this title is so hardcore, it's not a game ... and got no evaluation. :lol:

 

The tester of the magazine was visible overstrained with it's basics in singleplayer. :D

 

 

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For the german pc magazine "Gamestar", DCS: Warthog isn't a game. They tested it in 2011 (or so) and came to the end, that this title is so hardcore, it's not a game ... and got no evaluation. :lol:

 

The tester of the magazine was visible overstrained with it's basics in singleplayer. :D

 

 

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Very interesting project, I will be withholding judgement until I see something of substance, such as actual flight models beginning to take shape, cockpit avionics at least partially working. As someone who has toyed with the idea of making an aircraft in the DCS world platform, I know just how much time, dedication, and determination, as well as information sharing and networking which is involved to achieve even basic functionality. I think it might be a little presumptuous to state with any certainty when the module might be released, and to assert that it will be playable within a year is extremely optimistic. Look at some of the other DCS third party modules which are currently in development. Although we have seen little from them of late in the way of progress, its obvious to see just how easily a certain feature can bring the entire production to a halt. They (third party devs) are learning as they go, in a way without much help or assistance, and not always with all the knowledge of how to implement what it is they wish to. The reason we saw DCS Huey so early, I believe, is because as a DCS project, its scope was achievable within the limits of what is known about third party development currently. It's functionality is fairly basic, although impressive to see it all working as a unified module. But the scope of an f-35 dcs module with even a medium level of depth in systems and functionality would be rather daunting. That is why I am taking a step back before judging this, as I don't doubt it can be done, but as to what will emerge from such an endeavour is anyone's guess.

 

Best of luck to eagle and I look forward to seeing something of the project.

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@Eno...

 

It was a straightforward proposition

 

I balance my thirst for fidelity with the unshakeable reality that no matter how real I think it feels, I don't know the difference and I'm still sitting in front of a computer (usually with a drink in my free hand.)

 

My next question is a little OT- but about what time can I expect Synthetic Apperture Radar capability in the Hog? :D

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Will be interested to see how close this really is. I am a crew chief on F-35 AF-03. If you need help with anything, let me know. Will help with what I can.

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Eagle 13 Any updates ????????

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Eagle 13 Any updates ????????

 

Somewhere back in the 70+ pages of drivel he said he was not going to say any more until the kickstarter release 28/6. I would get you the quote but it means trawling back into that mess and i already feel like this thread has sapped my will to live.

 

On a brighter note, I'm very interested to see how this project pans out and i will definitely chip in a modest amount to help it along.

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I would get you the quote but it means trawling back into that mess and i already feel like this thread has sapped my will to live.

 

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