DCS F-35A

Is the TGP display generally only implemented in the A-10 code or is there a library for it in the DCS world? I don't mean the HDD and the functions there, but the general feature. I guess there's some base used by the Su-25 and the A-10C. So, I expect that a similar base needs to be done for the HMD display and the A2G radar.

Also the A-10A with its mavericks. As for 'some library', I can't really answer that except to say that this is basically included within the functions of DirectX etc - you can open multiple view ports.

I never said it's impossible, I just said that to my uninformed mind it seems it might require some extra support in the DCS World engine (OK, I don't know how far ED got with the Hornet features which should also feature A2G radar at least). And A-10C was two years in the making, no? By people who developed the game itself (meaning, very experienced and familiar). It's not like such features in DCS World are being developed very quickly, it usually takes months to get something like advanced missile modeling, while the announced landing SFM improvements are still not there.

If you're worried about 'new', then really all of the radar representation, but especially A2G would be new. I believe that the missiles have the least resources allocated to them, that's why they're slow going ... certainly KI may have a base of things to work with in terms of the F-35 to begin with: Perhaps they already have a 3D model of the pit and exterior, they have some ready dynamics and a lot of their research done, etc.

The touch screen is like a bunch of MFDs so ... the code is there in some form.

I remember all the ruffled feathers when ED refused to add AA missiles to the Ka-50 because they were never used in active service. Now this? :huh:

Ka-50 never used AA missiles in active service. It wasn't even in danger of having them.

F-35 already has training units out there IIRC, and all branches are preparing to receive aircraft.

Where are you drawing the parallels?

Finally, the F-35 is a 3rd party effort, Ka-50 was ED.

Also the A-10A with its mavericks. As for 'some library', I can't really answer that except to say that this is basically included within the functions of DirectX etc - you can open multiple view ports.

Yeah, OK, but you need some sim features around that viewport and I doubt they start from scratch every time they need some display, hence why I assume there's some library wrapped around this DirectX function in the DCS World.

If you're worried about 'new', then really all of the radar representation, but especially A2G would be new. I believe that the missiles have the least resources allocated to them, that's why they're slow going ... certainly KI may have a base of things to work with in terms of the F-35 to begin with: Perhaps they already have a 3D model of the pit and exterior, they have some ready dynamics and a lot of their research done, etc.

 

The touch screen is like a bunch of MFDs so ... the code is there in some form.

Yes, the radar worries me if ED hasn't done anything there yet. The touch screen doesn't worry me as much so I haven't mentioned that in my posts (but it depends on what options will the pilot have to organize these displays as he finds fit and this could be more problematic as the clickable points would be dynamic and part of the displayed content, not fixed to buttons on the side - so something like this needs to be supported in the code perhaps).

Regarding how far have KI gotten with the F-35 development, I guess we'll see on the Kickstarter page if not sooner. They don't seem to show much yet.

Kinney, what are the main obstacles you have to overcome in terms of aircraft avionics and systems? I'm very much looking forward to this!

So, when people ask you to make something to work as the whole world knows - you all stand against him. And then you announce the plane that you know zilch about. Well done.

And thanx for the trolling and the ban in advance.

Ka-50 never used AA missiles in active service. It wasn't even in danger of having them.

 

F-35 already has training units out there IIRC, and all branches are preparing to receive aircraft.

 

Where are you drawing the parallels?

 

Finally, the F-35 is a 3rd party effort, Ka-50 was ED.

In our make believe world of DCS where Hueys and Ka-50s are allied flight, everything does not have to be historically accurate.

In our make believe world of DCS where Hueys and Ka-50s are allied flight, everything does not have to be historically accurate.

True, but one must draw the line somewhere.

Aerodynamics Numbers, If not Availible, are easily obtained through closed experiments,

Download 3 Views, Build parts, Assemble Scale Model, Wind Tunnel, Record Data.

FCS and Departure of controlled flight on the other hand.... They are still testing the Airframes, so that data is rare for everyone. But if the Control Logic and Airframes Aero Data is close, then behavior should be pretty close as well.

Oh, by the way: 70%?

You talked all around that A10c is 95% real thing.

Why lying?

This is your official product info on steam:

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DCSA10C.

Liars.

It is a matter of how to count. 95% of functionality is real.

Oh, by the way: 70%?

You talked all around that A10c is 95% real thing.

Why lying?

This is your official product info on steam:

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DCSA10C.

Liars.

ED never said it was 70%.....

What if the end product we have now was 4%? Do you think you would ever know or care?

It is a matter of how to count. 95% of functionality is real.

That was before pilots and A-10C Ground crew that post here repeatedly voiced and posted how much stuff is missing.

Functionality is prolly 95%, but overal Accurate Simulation is prolly less, most likely by design.

 

Functionality is prolly 95%, but overal Accurate Simulation is prolly less, most likely by design.

Could also infer that of the 70% that is modelled, 95% of that is functional....

That's the problem with intentional omission - there always comes a time when someone starts digging.

What if the end product we have now was 4%? Do you think you would ever know or care?

I know where this comes from, but I don't think it's a good argument to use. I don't think ED is in the business of scamming, and I don't think anyone wants that to be the case.

It's not a matter of how much we can get away with, but that we don't need 100% accuracy to actually have a simulation. And if we did, no one would be here because that is not achievable.

The F-35 won't be 100% perfect. It might not be A-10 level. To say it's not a sim based on that is insanity

OH YEAH?

SkateZilla - so they're lying from start in their OFFICIAL PRODUCT INFORMATION and there is at least you who understands that. No matter then who said it's 70%.

Why lying? Is that some new tactic of raising sails?

And there are even people who support to be lied... This place is... bottom.

Try to read better before throwing libel insults around...

..What if the end product we have now was 4%? Do you think you would ever know or care?

This line should be read by so many so many times.

And then repeated.

Would create a more sensible atmosphere over here.

Asylum.

F-35 already has training units out there IIRC, and all branches are preparing to receive aircraft.

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Currently all training (USAF, Marines, Navy & the UK) is being accomplished at Eglin AFB, Florida.

And funny enough, around the same time this 3rd party project was announced I see this on the usaf news site...

An F-35A Lightning II joint strike fighter completed the first in-flight missile launch of an AIM-120 June 5, 2013, over the Point Mugu Sea test range in California. The JSF is a multiservice/international cooperation warplane. (Courtesy F-35 Program Office)

Currently all training (USAF, Marines, Navy & the UK) is being accomplished at Eglin AFB, Florida.

 

And funny enough, around the same time this 3rd party project was announced I see this on the usaf news site...

 

 

 

 

That happened a week ago though :p, they had live video/video's uploaded to socail media last week.

i really wish they woulda re-established VFA-101 at Oceana, give the Anti-Jet noise whiners so more noise.

Awesome! Can't wait.

Oooooo!

I like how it launches and lands on the boat without a hook.

Someday soon perhaps:

So yeah... F-35...

 

So, there we go! The first 1% - as good as done! ;-P

Hey, "Missionized Gun" ... what is THAT? Sounds ... interesting!