ED Team Wags Posted July 26, 2014 ED Team Share Posted July 26, 2014 I read on Reddit that 1.2.9 isn't working with DK2. Perhaps ED had a different SDK version and it is an easy fix. DK2 works fine here with 1.2.9 version as released to public today. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Wags Posted July 26, 2014 ED Team Share Posted July 26, 2014 From Oculus's good practices guide: Your code should run at a frame rate equal to or greater than the Rift display refresh rate, vsynced and unbuffered. Lag and dropped frames produce judder which is discomforting in VR. Ideally, target 20ms or less motion-to-photon latency Game loop latency is not a single constant and varies over time. The SDK uses some tricks (e.g., predictive tracking, TimeWarp) to shield the user from the effects of latency, but do everything you can to minimize variability in latency across an experience. I think DCS needs deep changes :music_whistling: One of the biggest reasons for the new engine is for improved frame rates. This will help a lot in meeting comfortable performance requirements. We already support predictive tracking and Time Warp. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCChameleon_Silk Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 for me the occulus is a no go, I have a young child and the last thing I want is to be blinded or immersed so deeply in the sim that I am unaware of whats going on around me. I'm sure its neat and all but its just not my kinda thing... I mean I'm still not even using headtracking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sceptre Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I've noticed an increase in FPS whilst playing 1.2.9 compared to 1.2.8.... anyone else getting this? RTX 2070 8GB | 32GB DDR4 2666 RAM | AMD Ryzen 5 3600 4.2Ghz | Asrock X570 | CH Fighterstick/Pro Throttle | TM MFDs | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaljjd Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Just broke down and ordered DK2,September isnt going to come fast enough!! Nice!, welcome to the wait club, I ordered mine on 20 Jun, maybe I'll make the 3rd or 4th wave. My fingers are crossed for August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy10uk Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 same here... don't back out now :D Lol, no issues there guys. Sadly UPS were unable to deliver yesterday and don't deliver on the weekend, so now they are currently saying Monday. It's hell knowing it's sat in their depot only 15 miles away from me. :( All going well, first impressions should be put up on Tues. Need Monday to fly. ;) Cowboy10uk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Fighter pilots make movies, Attack pilots make history, Helicopter pilots make heros. :pilotfly: Corsair 570x Crystal Case, Intel 8700K O/clocked to 4.8ghz, 32GB Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 3200 MHZ Ram, 2 x 1TB M2 drives, 2 x 4TB Hard Drives, Nvidia EVGA GTX 1080ti FTW, Maximus x Hero MB, H150i Cooler, 6 x Corsair LL120 RGB Fans And a bloody awful Pilot :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeliusg Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Tried calling them to see if you can drive down and pick it up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy10uk Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Sadly depot isn't open either. :( So have to wait until Monday no matter what. Cowboy10uk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Fighter pilots make movies, Attack pilots make history, Helicopter pilots make heros. :pilotfly: Corsair 570x Crystal Case, Intel 8700K O/clocked to 4.8ghz, 32GB Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 3200 MHZ Ram, 2 x 1TB M2 drives, 2 x 4TB Hard Drives, Nvidia EVGA GTX 1080ti FTW, Maximus x Hero MB, H150i Cooler, 6 x Corsair LL120 RGB Fans And a bloody awful Pilot :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank7006 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 So, Wags says DCS works just fine with DK2 with the new update. Has anyone tried it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosco350 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Mine arrives Tuesday! I have to work but will rush home in time for UPS to try it. I'll post my experience later Tuesday if no one else does before me. I've been using DK1 with DCS for a while so I can give a good description of the differences between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 one of my FSX Buddies is trying to code an input mixer he has a $10 webcam mounted to his unit and plugged into the DK2 USB Port. has a early alpha plugin that allows him to mix game output with webcam input with a hot key press. which allows him to see 100% game, 100% webcam or 50/50 mix. Which allows him ot use his FSX Switch boards and stuff :) Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelation Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Sadly depot isn't open either. :( So have to wait until Monday no matter what. Cowboy10uk Well at least you are almost there - I'm still pending. Last known order switched to processing on Thursday - order date at 2:40pm PDT on the 19th. I placed my order at 2:53pm PDT on the 19th. Yeah good stuff.... Win 10 Pro 64Bit | 49" UWHD AOC 5120x1440p | AMD 5900x | 64Gb DDR4 | RX 6900XT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Wags Posted July 26, 2014 ED Team Share Posted July 26, 2014 Given that some of you are now getting your DK2s, I thought this might be of interest. 1- As much as possible, you will want to maximize your frame rate, 75 FPS min if possible. However, given the current res of the DK2, I could not notice too many visible changes after backing off my graphic settings. You’ll want to play around with your settings to find your best balance. 2- Cockpits with a lot of dramatic geometry look best. I’m particularly fond of the Su-25T, UH-1H and F-86F. 3- Some HUDs seem more readable than others. For instance, I can read much of the HUD indication on the Ka-50 HUD. Others, not as easily. Aircraft like the F-86F, P-51D, Huey and Hip work very well given the lack of a busy HUD. 4- While the res is much better than the DK1 spotting targets is still almost impossible. I realize it’s a sin, but you may want to consider labels… I do! 5- After spending hours in the DK2, I have yet to feel at all unwell. This is compared to the DK1 that would give me headaches and nausea after just a few minutes. 6- The 6 DOF support really shines in DCS. The sense of presence is outstanding. 7- I now have a perpetual sore neck after doing several ACM flights. I’m tempted to attach a couple of grab handles to my monitor that I can grab on to in order to more easily check six! You get a much better sense of the fight geometry with the Rift. 8- Landing are a breeze now. You get a much better sense of speed and altitude. 9- After centering the view at the start of mission (KP 5), I never had to re-center. 10- Using a HOTAS, I very rarely had to press a key. When I did, I was able to easily look through the vents to find the needed key. 11- We are using predictive tracking and TimeWarp. Fun times! Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNR212 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 DK2 working in Multiplayer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazz_BMF Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Somehow I feel time is going backwards. Can't wait to get my dk2. My order is still Processing :cry: :pilotfly:Wolfpack Production:pilotfly: -=<[WiN 10, I7 3770K @ 4,5 Ghz, Corsair H100i, Sabertooth Z77, 16 GB Dominator, Sapphire 7970 VaporX 6GB, C70 Vengance, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Saitek Pro rudder, Track IR, Beyerdynamics MMX 300 ]>=- DCS/FC2/FC3/Arma videos on my channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/WolfpackproductionDK "Fortes Furtuna Juvat" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frusheen Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Given that some of you are now getting your DK2s, I thought this might be of interest. 1- As much as possible, you will want to maximize your frame rate, 75 FPS min if possible. However, given the current res of the DK2, I could not notice too many visible changes after backing off my graphic settings. You’ll want to play around with your settings to find your best balance. 2- Cockpits with a lot of dramatic geometry look best. I’m particularly fond of the Su-25T, UH-1H and F-86F. 3- Some HUDs seem more readable than others. For instance, I can read much of the HUD indication on the Ka-50 HUD. Others, not as easily. Aircraft like the F-86F, P-51D, Huey and Hip work very well given the lack of a busy HUD. 4- While the res is much better than the DK1 spotting targets is still almost impossible. I realize it’s a sin, but you may want to consider labels… I do! 5- After spending hours in the DK2, I have yet to feel at all unwell. This is compared to the DK1 that would give me headaches and nausea after just a few minutes. 6- The 6 DOF support really shines in DCS. The sense of presence is outstanding. 7- I now have a perpetual sore neck after doing several ACM flights. I’m tempted to attach a couple of grab handles to my monitor that I can grab on to in order to more easily check six! You get a much better sense of the fight geometry with the Rift. 8- Landing are a breeze now. You get a much better sense of speed and altitude. 9- After centering the view at the start of mission (KP 5), I never had to re-center. 10- Using a HOTAS, I very rarely had to press a key. When I did, I was able to easily look through the vents to find the needed key. 11- We are using predictive tracking and TimeWarp. Fun times! Wags can you confirm that 1.2.9 was compiled with the latest SDK, headset firmware and oculus runtime that was released a few days ago? It made some changes and several people on reddit and oculus forum have reported dcs isn't working for them. I've yet to read of a new dk2 owner getting it to work. __________________________________________________Win 10 64bit | i7 7700k delid @ 5.1gHz | 32Gb 3466mhz TridentZ memory | Asus ROG Apex motherboard | Asus ROG Strix 1080Ti overclocked Komodosim Cyclic | C-tek anti torque pedals and collective | Warthog stick and throttle | Oculus Rift CV1 | KW-908 Jetseat | Buttkicker with Simshaker for Aviators RiftFlyer VR G-Seat project: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2733051#post2733051 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Wags Posted July 26, 2014 ED Team Share Posted July 26, 2014 No, not since last month. It's possible these recent changes broke 1.2.9 compatibility. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobaschi Posted July 26, 2014 Author Share Posted July 26, 2014 No, not since last month. It's possible these recent changes broke 1.2.9 compatibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frusheen Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 No, not since last month. It's possible these recent changes broke 1.2.9 compatibility. UE4 integration along with other early access developer software has the same issue. It seems anything compiled with the 0.3sdk does not work with runtime 0.4 :-( I'm not sure if oculus can fix it or if it requires recompiling 1.2.9 with the 0.4SDK. __________________________________________________Win 10 64bit | i7 7700k delid @ 5.1gHz | 32Gb 3466mhz TridentZ memory | Asus ROG Apex motherboard | Asus ROG Strix 1080Ti overclocked Komodosim Cyclic | C-tek anti torque pedals and collective | Warthog stick and throttle | Oculus Rift CV1 | KW-908 Jetseat | Buttkicker with Simshaker for Aviators RiftFlyer VR G-Seat project: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2733051#post2733051 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 UE4 integration along with other early access developer software has the same issue. It seems anything compiled with the 0.3sdk does not work with runtime 0.4 :-( I'm not sure if oculus can fix it or if it requires recompiling 1.2.9 with the 0.4SDK. Can you Roll back to the .3 SDK? I've been chatting with AMD and some people with OR, as it's not limited to DCS. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frusheen Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Can you Roll back to the .3 SDK? I've been chatting with AMD and some people with OR, as it's not limited to DCS. I don't think the SDK used by ED was ever public. I may be wrong. __________________________________________________Win 10 64bit | i7 7700k delid @ 5.1gHz | 32Gb 3466mhz TridentZ memory | Asus ROG Apex motherboard | Asus ROG Strix 1080Ti overclocked Komodosim Cyclic | C-tek anti torque pedals and collective | Warthog stick and throttle | Oculus Rift CV1 | KW-908 Jetseat | Buttkicker with Simshaker for Aviators RiftFlyer VR G-Seat project: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2733051#post2733051 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I don't think the SDK used by ED was ever public. I may be wrong. i meant can the end-user/client roll back to use .3 firmware and stuff Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frusheen Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 i meant can the end-user/client roll back to use .3 firmware and stuff They can. Provided the earlier version is available. The version released last week is the only publicly available DK2 version. I think (and could be corrected on this) that ED had an early build which was not publicly released. There may be a possible workaround by installing a camera driver and removing the oculus 0.4 runtime. I won't have my DK2 until Tuesday so I can't check. Perhaps Oculus can resolve the issue. It seems crazy that they give certain software houses early access for development and then break it on them as soon as they release the dev kit to the rest of the dev community. __________________________________________________Win 10 64bit | i7 7700k delid @ 5.1gHz | 32Gb 3466mhz TridentZ memory | Asus ROG Apex motherboard | Asus ROG Strix 1080Ti overclocked Komodosim Cyclic | C-tek anti torque pedals and collective | Warthog stick and throttle | Oculus Rift CV1 | KW-908 Jetseat | Buttkicker with Simshaker for Aviators RiftFlyer VR G-Seat project: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2733051#post2733051 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Im searching the Oculus Forums, but from talking to people on other sites, it seems the Update doesnt like AMD GPUs. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frusheen Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 This is the official Oculus message relating to UE4. I suspect DCS has the same issue. Hey guys. As many of you recently figured out DK2 and UE4 4.3 do not work together if Oculus Runtime 0.4 is installed. We apologize for the mess. I want to confirm that UE4 4.3 is indeed DK2-ready. The problem is the new 0.4 Runtime that unfortunately is incompatible with 0.3-based apps for now. We are working on resolving this issue right now, as well as preparing a new integration of UE4 and Oculus SDK 0.4. As a workaround for now - you should not install 0.4 Runtime while you use UE4 4.3. Instead, you'll need to install a DK2 camera driver, download link: http://static.oculusvr.com/sdk-downloads/Oculus+VR+Camera+Installer.exe (Note: you will need to uninstall this driver later when you decide to switch to 0.4). If you already have installed 0.4 Runtime then you may either uninstall it and install the camera driver from above, or you need to disable the OVRService by performing the following steps: 1) Remove or Disable the "Oculus Service Scheduler" from the Windows Task Scheduler: "Start" button -> "Task Scheduler" 2) Switch display mode to Extended mode or uninstall the Oculus Display Driver; 3) Remove "OculusConfigUtil.exe" from Programs -> Startup (For example, C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Startup). On top of that the headset also had a firmware upgrade released. I'm not sure if that would need to be avoided. I just hope Wags has a hotline to Oculus HQ and it will have all been fixed by Tuesday so I can avoid the above hack. I did ask about this in the thread earlier in the week. I found it odd that oculus delayed release by a week to finish the SDK yet official DCS support was ready! __________________________________________________Win 10 64bit | i7 7700k delid @ 5.1gHz | 32Gb 3466mhz TridentZ memory | Asus ROG Apex motherboard | Asus ROG Strix 1080Ti overclocked Komodosim Cyclic | C-tek anti torque pedals and collective | Warthog stick and throttle | Oculus Rift CV1 | KW-908 Jetseat | Buttkicker with Simshaker for Aviators RiftFlyer VR G-Seat project: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2733051#post2733051 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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