Mainstay Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I really hope Ilya and the People behind him can pull this off. I played all versions of Il2 since the initial release and god did i pumped some fighter sim hours in it. Clod was a huge disappointment for me and after i bought it i barerly touched it :( But hey you guys are still in my list of heroes in the pixel industry and im 200% behind you guys. Godspeed !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainstay Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I also want to ask Ilya to reconsider making a G serie along with the K. Either a G6/8 or 10 would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorcer3r Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Will DCS WWII /EDGE feature a games save option that mission/campaign progress can be saved? [sIGPIC]http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b582/sorcerer17/sorcf16-b_zpsycmnwuay.gif[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintifaxl Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Don't know, if it has been posted already, but the 100 USD backing reward states: printed manuals for 2 planes, in the description it is only 1 manual. Windows 10 64bit, Intel i9-9900@5Ghz, 32 Gig RAM, MSI RTX 3080 TI, 2 TB SSD, 43" 2160p@1440p monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaelu Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I hope the map can be extended a bit more... we are used to 800+km across map :D . Maybe community building the map would be possible in the future? I mean the developing team gives as tasks to community to model specific locations, towns or areas. They give tools to place buildings, objects, trees, forest and the best creation gets to be inserted into actual map. The map could be cut in small bits that are useless by them selves and then the objects are just copy paste to big one. There are many people that know or have access to historical data about how particular places looked or have time and dedication for such work and could help such project progress better and faster. Could it be possible? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horseback Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 The size of the map is a bit of a disappointment (expectations can be a biotch), but It looks like we'll get a territory reaching approximately from Cherbourg to Le Havre and a good bit south--assuming that my Google Earth distance thingie is accurate. Still, even in 1944, Normandy was a lot 'busier' than the Black Sea area, especially if they have to make time to create new landmarks, vehicles, buildings, ships as well as the aircraft flight models at the level advertised. Naturally, once the basic work is completed and '44 World is up & making some money, we can start whining about tiny maps and demanding the rest of the Channel area with clear consciences.;) cheers horseback [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]"Here's your new Mustangs boys--you can learn to fly 'em on the way to the target!" LTCOL Don Blakeslee, late February 1944 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted September 6, 2013 ED Team Share Posted September 6, 2013 Did I miss the final size of the map somewhere? Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD_Crash Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Luthier said it post 1023. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted September 6, 2013 ED Team Share Posted September 6, 2013 Luthier said it post 1023. Thanks, see it now... hmmm the B-17 wouldnt even break a sweat in that distance :) it would be nice to consider a larger map with some lesser areas maybe not as detailed... I dont know... Even the range on fighters is much greater than that.... even adding a little of the British Coast might help... think of all that easy water inbetween ;) Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Python Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 even adding a little of the British Coast might help... think of all that easy water inbetween ;) Or all of Britain.. :music_whistling: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted September 6, 2013 ED Team Share Posted September 6, 2013 Or all of Britain.. :music_whistling: Lets not get greedy... lets ask for a little bit at a time :) Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Python Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 You are right of course... just the south east for now then... the easy bit. ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans-Joachim Marseille Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) Received a nasty surprise yesterday (private matters), but reading and watching the Kickstarter helped me through the night. I felt the Kickstarter video was "from the heart". They don't need fancy pictures to explain their vision. Thank you Luthier and team for making flight and operations manuals available as hard-copies. Luftwaffe operations maps of D-day can be found here. Wishing you all a good weekend. Edited September 6, 2013 by Hans-Joachim Marseille Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 A few large scale maps are planned if they reach their funding / sales goal. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westr Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 We need a little bit of English coast or where will our allied aircraft takeoff and return home too?:) RYZEN 7 3700X Running at 4.35 GHz NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080Ti 32gb DDR4 RAM @3200 MHz Oculus CV1 NvME 970 EVO TM Warthog Stick & Throttle plus 11" extension. VKB T-Rudder MKIV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans-Joachim Marseille Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) We need a little bit of English coast or where will our allied aircraft takeoff and return home too?:) A-10 Carentan, par example. Edited September 6, 2013 by Hans-Joachim Marseille Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luthier1 Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Evening everyone! Can you clarify the free flyables from the licensed ones, is there going to be free ones (or one like DCS World), it seems a little confusing right now... FREE for everyone: P-47 Spitfire Bf.109K Paid on release P-51 (from DCS World) FW-190D (from DCS World) If you back at a $20 level, you can pick a P-51 or FW-190D. If you back at a $40 level, you will have both. If you already own a DCS World P-51 and/or FW-190, then obviously no one wants you to have to pay for anything twice. If we reach stretch goals, then the story changes. Free aircraft list will most likely not change. Backing at $20 still gets you one of the larger variety of paid aircraft. $40 or above still gets you ALL of the initial flyables. None of the aircraft released in future updates are covered by any of this. I also want to ask Ilya to reconsider making a G serie along with the K. Either a G6/8 or 10 would be great. I like the G. It's just we currently can only make one variant of the 109, and we picked the K as we have the best data on it. I don't want to make empty promises or vaguely hint at something, but I really liked having multiple variants of the same plane in my older projects. The overall process is much simpler. Once we have the K, making the various Gs and maybe the F should be comparatively simple. Don't know, if it has been posted already, but the 100 USD backing reward states: printed manuals for 2 planes, in the description it is only 1 manual. The sidebar description is the most correct. Sorry about the confusion. I'm still unable to edit the description, getting the limit reached error. I guess I'll just honor the bigger rewards in every case, and deliver the maximum or the combination of any two tiers with errors in descriptions. I hope the map can be extended a bit more... we are used to 800+km across map :D . We can extend the map to the entire globe, but manually adding detail will be extremely hard to do. We can have all of England done for the map in virtually no time, but it'll be a general coastline filled with vague generic field. It really makes no sense to spend time making British airfields if you only have AI bombers; a flyable B-17 will obviously need to have a nice-looking airbase to take off from and return to. The size of the map is a bit of a disappointment (expectations can be a biotch), but It looks like we'll get a territory reaching approximately from Cherbourg to Le Havre and a good bit south--assuming that my Google Earth distance thingie is accurate. Still, even in 1944, Normandy was a lot 'busier' than the Black Sea area, especially if they have to make time to create new landmarks, vehicles, buildings, ships as well as the aircraft flight models at the level advertised. The way I understand EDGE - and I have to mention that there is a chance that I can be wrong here - is that we can take an existing map and just drag out the outer edges and extend it by any number of kilometers. Creating generic terrain with a vague coastline and some elevation is not a huge task. Making it look good is. Making it historically accurate, i.e. recreating road networks, landmarks, etc, is a huge huge effort. We could take our existing Normandy and tack on England and Paris and Ruhr and Berlin. Theoretically. It's just it'll either take many man-years to polish every square mile, or we'll end up with some empty generic filler across vast areas. And THANK YOU to all the backers once again. We'll have a new cool video released on Monday morning. I'll be around until then to answer questions, so keep them coming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tvrdi Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Luthier, One crucial question, which will decide me backing or not. Do you plan to make a collision model for trees. If not then ppl would use trees in mp to excape level chases. To hide. Its killing fun and is highly unrealistic. And if we turn off trees terrain will look ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linx Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 We need a little bit of English coast or where will our allied aircraft takeoff and return home too?:) +1 At least a tiny island or small, undetailed part of British coast with an airfield would be good for pre-invasion scenarios. Otherwise we can only do post D-Day missions and that limits the number of possible scenarios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DBS]TH0R Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 First of all, thank you for starting this project. So far all of your explanations seem valid to me and do make sense. I do intend to pledge, but before I will wait until more questions are answered... Luthier, One crucial question, which will decide me backing or not. Do you plan to make a collision model for trees. If not then ppl would use trees in mp to excape level chases. To hide. Its killing fun and is highly unrealistic. And if we turn off trees terrain will look ugly. This wouldn't stop me from pledging, but I will say this: the way we have it now in DCS is just for show. The AI can see, fire and move through trees as if they weren't there. This translates to the following: AI sitting in the middle of the forest can fire at you as if it was on an open field and you can not shoot back since it is nearly impossible to spot the bugger. In addition to what Tvrdi said, and with the obvious focus on ground attack in the DCS WWII - it would be a serious mishap not to have trees as solid obstacles for both AI and players & planes. Especially, and excuse me for comparing, but since RoF has tree collisions it is highly unlikely BoS will not have them. P8Z68 | 2500k @ 4.5 | GTX 1080Ti | 2x8 GB @ 1600 | TM Hog (extended 7cm) & MFG Crosswind (S/N 007) | TIR v5 WWII bomber formations | DCS P-51D: [TEST] TO distance / gross weight / temperature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foul Ole Ron Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 (edited) For us existing DCS customers who have the P51 and will likely buy the FW-190 once that comes out there's not a powerful incentive for us to pledge other than we really want to see the game made (which we do). I've pledged $112 currently and in effect I'll not be getting anything for that other than some manuals which I really couldn't be bothered with. I think an option to ditch the manuals and get a future plane or two would be more of an incentive. Right now I have to admit that after seeing that 3 of the planes are totally free anyway I'm not feeling like I'm getting a huge amount for my pledge. Yes we might push on to stretch goals but in the event that we don't hit $375k I think a provision for some other kind of reward should be there. Edited September 7, 2013 by Foul Ole Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uther Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 For us existing DCS customers who have the P51 and will likely buy the FW-190 once that comes out there's not a powerful incentive for us to pledge other than we really want to see the game made (which we do). I've pledged $112 currently and in effect I'll not be getting anything for that other than some manuals which I really couldn't be bothered with. I think an option to ditch the manuals and get a future plane or two would be more of an incentive. Right now I have to admit that after seeing that 3 of the planes are totally free anyway I'm not feeling like I'm getting a huge amount for my pledge. Yes we might push on to stretch goals but in the event that we don't hit $375k I think a provision for some other kind of reward should be there. I would agree with this, and I don't even currently own the P51. i5 4690k / MSI Gaming 5 / 2 x 8 GB Crucial Ballistix ram / Zotac AMP! 980Ti / 2 x 250 SSDs Flight Controls:Virpil VPC MoogoosT-50 / MFG Crosswinds / GVL Throttle / Oculus Rift CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlipBall Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 I would agree with this, and I don't even currently own the P51. I don't think a horse can be changed mid-stream :P..besides, other people may be happy with the rewards they donated for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ishtmail Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Can you clarify the free flyables from the licensed ones, is there going to be free ones (or one like DCS World), it seems a little confusing right now... Yes, I would also like this clarification. As it stands now, there is some confusion. One part of the description states that at 100k funding goal we get 5 airplanes (P51D and FW190 included), in another part it states that we get 3 airplanes. DCS A10C Warthog, DCS Black Shark 2, DCS P51D Mustang, DCS UH-1H Huey, DCS Mi-8MTV2 Magnificent Eight, Flaming Cliffs 3, Combined Arms System: Intel i7 4770k @4,2GHz; MSI Z87-G65; 16GB DDR3 1600 MHz RAM; 128GB SSD SATA3 (system disk); 2TB HDD SATA3 (games disk); Sapphire Radeon R9 290 Tri-X; Windows 7 64bit Flight controls: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog; Saitek Pro Flight Combat Rudder; TrackIR 5; Thrustmaster F16 MFDs; 2x 8'' LCD screens (VGA) for MFD display; 27'' LG LCD full HD main display Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans-Joachim Marseille Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 (edited) In my opinion you back a project because you want to see it happen as presented, not because "what's in it for me" (bigger maps, better planes, "bang for your buck"-type of discussions). In effect, it's a donation rather than a (pre-)purchase. I like to have a hard-copy of the manuals, so it's a welcome incentive for me. Edited September 7, 2013 by Hans-Joachim Marseille Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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