ED Team Wags Posted July 7, 2014 ED Team Share Posted July 7, 2014 (edited) Dear all, In this July 2014 update, the primary news is in regards to the restructured backer rewards. After a careful review of the older system under RRG, we found it financially unattainable. However, the restructured system still provides an excellent value for your backing contribution. If you earlier paid a shipping cost, it will be added to your total pledge amount. We also feel this new system dramatically reduces the chance of reward delivery confusion and delays. As software deliverables (aircraft and map keys) are ready for release, keys will be sent to backers based on their contribution level. Physical items like shirts, hats, etc. will be sent when the entire DCS: World War II: Europe 1944 project is complete per deliverable items stated in the rewards list at the bottom of this update. Per the update last month, we are pushing hard to deliver the originally planned aircraft and assets as fast as we can. Because we have additional staff assigned to this effort, this will accelerate the process and dramatically lessen the impact on our other projects (insert: “where is my Hornet?!” comments). Our ultimate goal is to create a unique battlefield environment within DCS World that is specifically tailored to Second World War air combat. This is a combination of the period aircraft, maps, navigation, communications, and objects that creates a total experience. DCS World is designed to encompass multiple time periods and locations, and we see this as a keystone endeavor for just one slice of DCS World. As each part of DCS: World War II: Europe 1944 is created (aircraft and map), we will release it as a unique DCS World module (like we are currently preparing DCS: Fw 190 D-9 Dora for). Backers will get each part based on their contribution level. When all the pieces are done, we will create a bundle package that puts them all together in a single download / boxed purchase. In other words, there will be no separate installation that runs outside of DCS World. That would defeat the primary goal of DCS World. DCS World War II: Europe 1944 Backer Rewards: $1-19 Bronze Backer credit in manuals P-51D or Fw 190 D-9 and print-ready PDF manual $20-$39 Bronze Backer credit in manuals One aircraft of choice, beta access, and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map $40-$59 Bronze Backer credit in manuals Two aircraft of choice, beta access, and print-ready PDF manuals Normandy Map $60-$79 Silver Backer credit in manuals Three aircraft of choice, beta access, and print-ready PDF manuals Normandy Map $80-$99 Silver Backer credit in manuals Four aircraft of choice, beta access, and print-ready PDF manuals Normandy Map $100-$119 Silver Backer credit in manuals Five aircraft of choice, beta access, and print-ready PDF manuals Normandy Map $120-$139 Gold Backer credit in manuals All aircraft of choice, beta access, and print-ready PDF manuals Normandy Map $140-$159 Gold Backer credit in manuals All aircraft of choice, beta access, and print-ready PDF manuals Normandy Map Normandy Map Alpha access $160-$179 Gold Backer credit in manuals All aircraft of choice, beta access, and print-ready PDF manuals Normandy Map Normandy Map Alpha access Copy of any Eagle Dynamics developed DCS product $180-$199 Platinum Backer credit in manuals All aircraft of choice, beta access, and print-ready PDF manuals Normandy Map Normandy Map Alpha access Copy of any Eagle Dynamics developed DCS product TFC Polo Shirt $200-$249 Platinum Backer credit in manuals All aircraft of choice, beta access, and print-ready PDF manuals Normandy Map Normandy Map Alpha access Copy of any Eagle Dynamics developed DCS product TFC Polo Shirt TFC hat and calendar $250-$499 Platinum Backer credit in manuals All aircraft of choice, beta access, and print-ready PDF manuals Normandy Map Normandy Map Alpha access Copy of any Eagle Dynamics developed DCS product TFC Polo Shirt TFC hat and calendar Two keys for each aircraft $500-$999 Diamond Backer credit in manuals All aircraft of choice, beta access, and print-ready PDF manuals Normandy Map Normandy Map Alpha access Copy of any Eagle Dynamics developed DCS product TFC Polo Shirt TFC hat and calendar Two keys for each aircraft One existing aircraft skin with your name below the canopy $1,000 Diamond Backer credit in manuals All aircraft of choice, beta access, and print-ready PDF manuals Normandy Map Normandy Map Alpha access Copy of any Eagle Dynamics developed DCS product TFC Polo Shirt TFC hat and calendar Two keys for each aircraft One existing aircraft skin with your name below the canopy One custom paint scheme for the aircraft of your choice $2,000 Diamond Backer credit in manuals All aircraft of choice, beta access, and print-ready PDF manuals Normandy Map Normandy Map Alpha access Copy of any Eagle Dynamics developed DCS product TFC Polo Shirt TFC hat and calendar Two keys for each aircraft One existing aircraft skin with your name below the canopy One custom paint scheme for the aircraft of your choice Your face on the pilot model of your plane of choice Note: Alpha access to aircraft is to be determined. 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cichlidfan Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 (edited) Wags July Update *edited* I can certainly live with this. :thumbup: Thanks Matt!!! Edited July 7, 2014 by cichlidfan ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derelor Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Excellent! 1338 - beyond leet ED Forum rules EN|DE|RU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team f-18hornet Posted July 7, 2014 ED Team Share Posted July 7, 2014 (edited) I had to reread it and I understand the situation now. Edited July 8, 2014 by f-18hornet AMD Ryzen 9 3900X, GeForce RTX 2080Ti, 32 GB DRAM, HOTAS TM Warthog, FSSB R3 Lighting, MFG Crosswind, Win 10 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krupi Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 AWESOME now where is the Fw 190 Alpha :D Windows 10 Pro | ASUS RANGER VIII | i5 6600K @ 4.6GHz| MSI RTX 2060 SUPER | 32GB RAM | Corsair H100i | Corsair Carbide 540 | HP Reverb G2 | MFG crosswind Pedals | Custom Spitfire Cockpit Project IX Cockpit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Wonderful news, thanks Matt. i7 7700K | 32GB RAM | GTX 1080Ti | Rift CV1 | TM Warthog | Win 10 "There will always be people with a false sense of entitlement. You can want it, you can ask for it, but you don't automatically deserve it. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason S Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 This sounds reasonable. Only one small question that I and 311 other people will have regarding the $50 pledge level...will we get the BF-109? Pledge $50 or more 312 backers ALPHA Tier 1. Everything at the $10 ORIGINAL level, plus a digital copy of all flyable aircraft in the initial release, plus ALPHA ACCESS. Estimated delivery: Feb 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted July 7, 2014 ED Team Share Posted July 7, 2014 This sounds reasonable. Only one small question that I and 311 other people will have regarding the $50 pledge level...will we get the BF-109? Pledge $50 or more 312 backers ALPHA Tier 1. Everything at the $10 ORIGINAL level, plus a digital copy of all flyable aircraft in the initial release, plus ALPHA ACCESS. Estimated delivery: Feb 2014 50 would fall in here $40 - $59: $40 Bronze Backer credit in manuals DCS: P-51D Mustang and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map DCS: Fw 190 D-9 Dora, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reksi-Erkki Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I pledged $50 too, and I'm not very happy about this. Dear Shilka. I hate you so very very much. Love, Rex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Dragon Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 good work wags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Finally, a straightforward backer's reward statement. This looks great! Can't wait for those alpha's to start coming out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted July 7, 2014 ED Team Share Posted July 7, 2014 I pledged $50 too, and I'm not very happy about this. Yes RRG promised more than was reasonable... but you are getting $100 in modules and of course the map, which I dont think we know how much it will be sold for... so you are getting decent value for your money... Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wissam24 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 So I paid for Everything at the $40 level, plus a hard copy of the game’s air combat strategy and tactics manual, and spiral-bound copies of complete aircraft manuals for two flyable aircraft in the game. And now I'm not getting that? Not happy at all. It's not financially attainable for you to meet the backer rewards system? You shouldn't have allowed RRG to go ahead with the Kickstarter then. Not happy one bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted July 7, 2014 ED Team Share Posted July 7, 2014 So I paid for Everything at the $40 level, plus a hard copy of the game’s air combat strategy and tactics manual, and spiral-bound copies of complete aircraft manuals for two flyable aircraft in the game. And now I'm not getting that? Not happy at all. It's not financially attainable for you to meet the backer rewards system? You shouldn't have allowed RRG to go ahead with the Kickstarter then. Not happy one bit. I dont think ED was consulted on a lot of the aspects of the KS, that is an unfortunate part.... Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivas Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 The new rewards looks to be a good compromis. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tough boy Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Meh. It's obviously not good when you're told you'll be receiving less than expected, but I understand the original "matrix" wasn't viable, and I much prefer ED to stay in good health than having exactly what I've been promised. Still it's plenty :) There's one thing I don't understand though, I pledged 80$ so I will get four planes, will I be able to buy the other two at 20$ or I'll have to pay the full price for those? If that's the case, any chance the planes can be swapped, since I'm much more interested in the P-47 and Me.262 than the Spit and the 109? I understand this complicate things, but no harm in asking I guess :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Dragon Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 And the PayPal rewards? enter on the new rewars? Here's what you'll be able to fly: $0 (non-backer): ONE aircraft (either P-47, Spitfire, or Bf.109, to be voted for by backers) $1: THREE aircraft (P-47, Spitfire, and Bf.109) $20: FOUR aircraft (P-47, Spitfire, Bf.109, plus one more of your choice) $30: FIVE aircraft (P-47, Spitfire, Bf.109, plus two more of your choice) $40: ALL aircraft (all aircraft in the initial release) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted July 7, 2014 ED Team Share Posted July 7, 2014 Meh. It's obviously not good when you're told you'll be receiving less than expected, but I understand the original "matrix" wasn't viable, and I much prefer ED to stay in good health than having exactly what I've been promised. Still it's plenty :) There's one thing I don't understand though, I pledged 80$ so I will get four planes, will I be able to buy the other two at 20$ or I'll have to pay the full price for those? If that's the case, any chance the planes can be swapped, since I'm much more interested in the P-47 and Me.262 than the Spit and the 109? I understand this complicate things, but no harm in asking I guess :P You will most likely have to purchase them at full price, I dont think swapping is an option.. that would be a lot of work... Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted July 7, 2014 ED Team Share Posted July 7, 2014 And the PayPal rewards? enter on the new rewars? This covers all... KS and PayPal.... this is the new reward system for all. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmusman Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I view it as DCS making GOOD on a bad original situation that they were not a part of. Thank You. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Dragon Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I have a feeling it will be many people who will not like this. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I have a feeling it will be many people who will not like this. :/ The alternative, ED does nothing, would have been less well liked. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narushima Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I backed 20$ to get 4 aircraft, but more specifically to get the Dora. I don't care about the P-51 and it was not a part of my reward so I don't understand why it is now. If I wanted the P-51 I would have bought it when it was on sale for 10$... I'd much rather have my promised Dora or my money refunded. And just a heads up, promising something, then going back on your word when it's inconvenient for you, is not how you retain loyal customers. 1 FW 190 Dora performance charts: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=128354 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tough boy Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 You will most likely have to purchase them at full price, I dont think swapping is an option.. that would be a lot of work... I see, oh well :dunno: thanks for the reply! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted July 7, 2014 ED Team Share Posted July 7, 2014 I backed 20$ to get 4 aircraft, but more specifically to get the Dora. I don't care about the P-51 and it was not a part of my reward so I don't understand why it is now. If I wanted the P-51 I would have bought it when it was on sale for 10$... I'd much rather have my promised Dora or my money refunded. And just a heads up, promising something, then going back on your word when it's inconvenient for you, is not how you retain loyal customers. ED didnt make these promises... this was the best compromise they could come up with based on what RRG set up... Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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