Einherjer Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 (edited) Hi there. Was reading in the manual and I am a little shocked that the A/A T/R tacan will not be implemented?! Does it mean it never will be implemented or not by now?! Would be a really good function to find the FAC or another F-5 flying around in the target area... Edited July 6, 2016 by Einherjer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAFU Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 It is implemented in the A-10C, so should not be too much to add this function to the Tiger, if this was part of the F-5E modell. Helps also in BFM training. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Unsere Facebook-Seite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel_108 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 I was thinking the same. Would be very odd if they left it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala13_ManOWar Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 If I'm reading correctly it says about A/A, "receiving bearing information from specially equipped air-to-air stations". Is the F-5 itself a "specially equipped air-to-air station or is any other in-game aircraft? Still, the Rec mode is supposed to work, so you get bearing, just lacking distance. Is it really so a big deal? S! "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamin_Squirrel Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 If I'm reading correctly it says about A/A, "receiving bearing information from specially equipped air-to-air stations". Is the F-5 itself a "specially equipped air-to-air station or is any other in-game aircraft? A/A refuelers are. Don't think anything else (including F-5) is. Still, the Rec mode is supposed to work, so you get bearing, just lacking distance. Is it really so a big deal? S! I don't remember the precise details, but I believe 2 aircraft with TACAN can establish their distance between eachother, but not bearing. The first aircraft selects a channel, the second one selects a channel +/- 63 different. I've not tried this in multiplayer myself though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Any two TACAN equipped aircraft can obtain distance from each other, this is known as TACAN Yardstick as is used for formation keeping and rejoins etc. If this isn't modelled it will be a big omission, especially as it's the only tool to assist with formation work in the F-5E. It is indeed modelled in the A-10C, not sure about other TACAN equipped modules though. As far as bearing, very few aircraft can provide that in reality (the KC-135 can't). Spoiler Intel 13900K (5Ghz), 64Gb 6400Mhz, MSi RTX 3090, Schiit Modi/Magi DAC/AMP, ASUS PG43UQ, Hotas Warthog, RealSimulator FSSB3, 2x TM MFDs + DCS MFDs, MFG Crosswinds, Elgato Steamdeck XL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala13_ManOWar Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 A/A refuelers are. Don't think anything else (including F-5) is. I don't remember the precise details, but I believe 2 aircraft with TACAN can establish their distance between eachother, but not bearing. The first aircraft selects a channel, the second one selects a channel +/- 63 different. I've not tried this in multiplayer myself though.Good to know, thanks!! :thumbup: So that's a nice system to use in game provided it works. I'll keep in mind. Well, lets expect "not implemented" means it's just a beta lacking feature. S! "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team cofcorpse Posted July 6, 2016 ED Team Share Posted July 6, 2016 It is indeed modelled in the A-10C, not sure about other TACAN equipped modules though. Does this work with a AI craft? What should I do to receive range to AI craft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Does this work with a AI craft? No it doesn't (apart from KC-135) player/client only in MP. Two aircraft must set a TACAN 63 channels apart from each other (eg 01Y for lead & 64Y for wing). There's no option to set this for the AI. Spoiler Intel 13900K (5Ghz), 64Gb 6400Mhz, MSi RTX 3090, Schiit Modi/Magi DAC/AMP, ASUS PG43UQ, Hotas Warthog, RealSimulator FSSB3, 2x TM MFDs + DCS MFDs, MFG Crosswinds, Elgato Steamdeck XL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team cofcorpse Posted July 6, 2016 ED Team Share Posted July 6, 2016 No it doesn't (apart from KC-135) player/client only in MP. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team cofcorpse Posted July 7, 2016 ED Team Share Posted July 7, 2016 (edited) Good news everyone! A/A T/R is implemented and working in multiplayer. We will fix it in the manual. Edited July 7, 2016 by cofcorpse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einherjer Posted July 7, 2016 Author Share Posted July 7, 2016 Oh! Thanks for this fast response! Thanks a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Good to hear; thanks for feeding back. Spoiler Intel 13900K (5Ghz), 64Gb 6400Mhz, MSi RTX 3090, Schiit Modi/Magi DAC/AMP, ASUS PG43UQ, Hotas Warthog, RealSimulator FSSB3, 2x TM MFDs + DCS MFDs, MFG Crosswinds, Elgato Steamdeck XL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grunf Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Good news everyone! A/A T/R is implemented and working in multiplayer. We will fix it in the manual. That was fast. :D Thank you! :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furia Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Real nice!! Good news [sIGPIC]http://menorca.infotelecom.es/~raulurbina/ESA/banner_furia.png[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Good news everyone! A/A T/R is implemented and working in multiplayer. We will fix it in the manual. :megalol: :thumbup: Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmaclauchlan Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Quick response on that one! Great work, Belsimtek! Matthew 'Mags' Maclauchlan Oculus CV1, Thrustmaster FCS HOTAS/Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Manuel_108 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Nice!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Schmidtfire Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 So with A/A T/R do we get range and bearing, or is it range information only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Range only. Spoiler Intel 13900K (5Ghz), 64Gb 6400Mhz, MSi RTX 3090, Schiit Modi/Magi DAC/AMP, ASUS PG43UQ, Hotas Warthog, RealSimulator FSSB3, 2x TM MFDs + DCS MFDs, MFG Crosswinds, Elgato Steamdeck XL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backy 51 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 :beer: Relieved ... I don't need no stinkin' GPS! (except for PGMs :D) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 So with A/A T/R do we get range and bearing, or is it range information only? Range only. Why do you think A/A T/R doesn't give range and bearing? Page 106 (1-92) of TO 1F-5E-1 on the ARN-118 14 Function Selector Switch OFF —Turns off power. REC — Receiving identification signals from selected station and provides bearing to station. T/R — Transmitting and receiving. Provides bearing and range to station. A/A REC — receiving identification signals from selected airborne station and provides bearing to station. A/A T/R — Transmitting and receiving. Provides bearing and range to selected airborne station. i9 9900K @4.9GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX4070 12GB, 1+2TB NVMe, 6+4TB HD, 4+1TB SSD, Winwing Orion 2 F-15EX Throttle + F-16EX Stick, TPR Pedals, TIR5, Win 10 Pro x64, 1920X1080 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Because it doesn't. Not unless the cooperating station is able to provide bearing data. Which aside from the KC-10 other aircraft cannot do. The bearing element of TACAN requires a rotating signal synchronised with the ranging pulses in order for the receiver to derive bearing to the station. Aircraft only have the ranging portion of the system. In short the F-5E, A-10, and I any other tactical aircraft you care to name with TACAN can receive and display range and bearing via TACAN, but they can only provide range to others. 1 Spoiler Intel 13900K (5Ghz), 64Gb 6400Mhz, MSi RTX 3090, Schiit Modi/Magi DAC/AMP, ASUS PG43UQ, Hotas Warthog, RealSimulator FSSB3, 2x TM MFDs + DCS MFDs, MFG Crosswinds, Elgato Steamdeck XL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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