[FIXED] F-86F- block 35- Missing Conventional Ordinance

I would like to point out that the F86F sabre is missing any additional bomb ordinance load out options

As of Currently for its bomb load out; it only has is ww2 era box fin AN-M64 500 pound bombs.

Very importantly lacking is the M117 750 pound bomb, which would have debuted in korean war and as well have been available to sabres inventory during conflict and also post war, is missing from the sabre module in DCS.

so Since m117 exists within the game files & usable for the F-5 Tiger 2 E-1 & E-3 AI aircraft, and will be available in the upcoming belsimtek's WIP F5E module, would that not mean it just has to be ported over the F86F module, and not have to be developed from scratch?

PS: Additionally per SAC source it also lists 1000 pound bombs part of the ordinance,=: so ww2 era AN-M65 1000 pounders should be an option too.

In total sabres max Carry capacity of armament listed in sac is weighed to 2000 pounds

Here are some sources:

F86F SAC manual : makes reference in armament section " new series bombs" 750 pounds

http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/aircraft/usa/northamericanaviation/f-86sabre/f-86f-25-thru-40-sabre-standard-aircraft-characteristics.html

M117 sources

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/92/1953_General-Purpose_Bomb_(2835370938).jpg

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/m117.htm

http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/dumb/m117.htm

If you check the manual, you see not only missing M117, the manuals show 250 and 500 lb bombs can be carried, and of course all WW2 (AN-M series) bellow of 1000lb (SAPs, HE, fragmentary, incendiary, etc).

If you check the manual, you see not only missing M117, the manuals show 250 and 500 lb bombs can be carried, and of course all WW2 (AN-M series) bellow of 1000lb (SAPs, HE, fragmentary, incendiary, etc).

Your right :thumbup:

yes im sorry, i was mostly focusing on the M117 because it is a post ww2 newer generation bomb that was designed for jets in mind while all prior bombs that were used on sabre were still of ww2 vintage, and because of the fact ithat the M117 is already within the Game's files.

All Beslimtek would have to do is port it over to the F86F modue and not actually have to design it from scratch.

As for incendiaries type munitions like BLU (napalm) I didn't bring it up here because,\ someone asked about it in the F5E thread, and a BST mod said incendiaries wouldn't work properly because ED needs to do work on their part onto the game's engine for the effects to be properly modeled.

Also just to additionally post something, heres the M117 bomb already ingame, from looking at the Encyclopedia section DCS

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would like to credit DrPhibes for finding this .:thumbup:

he had a download link to the entire F86F handbook manual, which will be nicely compliment the Standard aircraft characterisitcs summary from my original post.

so individuals dont have to download the entire document i have instead post a link to the Armament stores section of the page, which pertains to this bug report ( page 180) which i have screeshotted and uploaded to Imigur

Link to Dr.Phibes post ( with manual download links)

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2167231&postcount=9

Marked as fixed. M117 bomb added in internal version.

Marked as fixed. M117 bomb added in internal version.

thanks for the update thats good to hear :)

hope to see this in game in the next update/patch