Ashilta Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Hum ... I'm not sure it's the same bug because most of the time I was flying at low altitude when CTD occured...and it was in SP... By 'the same bug' I think Pikey means that the crash log is identical. He and I, with the help of another in our group, were able to repeatedly reproduce this by passing FL200 doing about Mach .85 with 15 degrees nose up. We tried changing the FBW settings, payload etc to no avail. The only thing that I think was consistent for us was the RWR and perhaps D2M being on. On each reproduction, the error mentioned earlier was identical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I just flew without the RWR (and without MWS) and... no crash! So the RWR might indeed be responsible for the crashes. That was a good find PB0_CEF! I will do further tests with and without the RWR to make sure. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikey Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I've found I cannot reproduce locally, just gonna test as a proper client and report back ___________________________________________________________________________ SIMPLE SCENERY SAVING * SIMPLE GROUP SAVING * SIMPLE STATIC SAVING * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashilta Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I just flew without the RWR (and without MWS) and... no crash! So the RWR might indeed be responsible for the crashes. That was a good find PB0_CEF! I will do further tests with and without the RWR to make sure. Can I ask *where* you tested as it seems to be of significance, and by 'where' I mean on which server/mission etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Can I ask *where* you tested as it seems to be of significance, and by 'where' I mean on which server/mission etc BlueFlag, as you can see in my previous posts ;) Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnio Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I get the RWR crash as well ~5 min after takeoff. I flew it for an hour with RWR off with no issues. I think it originated with a certain radar signal. I'd have to replicate it to be sure. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacks Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 The last flight I did in 1.5.2, turning the RWR on crashed it. The flat before that turning the master arm on crashed it. Both times I was above 20k ft and nose up attitude and climbing. Both of these crashes were a MP server. Had no issues in 2.0 though. System Specs: i7 8700k @ 5.0GHz (not delidded), ASRock Extreme4 Z370 MOBO, EVGA GTX 1080 SC 8GB, 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200MHz DDR4 RAM, Samsung Evo 240GB SSD, Samsung Evo 500GB SSD, 1TB HDD, Noctura NH-D15S Heat Sink, Acer VE278H 27" 1080p Monitor, Ocukus Rift CV1. Controllers: TrackIR 5, Thrustmaster HOTAS X, Saitek Throttle Quadrant (with DIY removable collective mod), Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals. Just trying to keep my number of takeoffs and landings equal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) OK, it has to be the RWR! I just made two more test flights (on the Blu Flag server) and it worked out like this: Flight 1: I started from Kutaisi with 2x Magic, 2x S530 and 1x Center Fuel Pod. I flew with RWR activated and climbed to high level (around 20k feet) immediately after takeoff with afterburners lit. It CTDed after just 2 or 3 minutes. Flight 2: I started again from Kutaisi with the same loadout and same flight profile but this time with RWR deactivated. It didn't crash for about 5 minutes where I kept cruising at 25k feet. I then activated the RWR and it crashed 2-3 seconds later. I will upload logs and the track of the second flight in a moment. Edit: I just did a 3rd flight to test for altitude: Same flight with same configuration and RWR activated, but this time I kept it low level. It didn't crash for about 5 minutes. I then decided to go high and just when I passed 21000 feet it crashed. So it seems like there is something wrong with the RWR at high altitude. Edit2: I attached to log files for all 3 flights and the track file for flight 2. The other two track files are too large. Edited February 10, 2016 by QuiGon Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB0_CEF Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 In my tests in SP, low altitude didn't change the CTD with RWR on... maybe a longer fly time before crash but it finally crashed (about 7 minutes later ) Could it be a detection problem ? [/url]All known Dynamic Campaign Engine Campaigns Last DCE news : Crisis in PG - Blue version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB0_CEF Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Cool good work ! Envoyé de mon iPhone à l'aide de Tapatalk [/url]All known Dynamic Campaign Engine Campaigns Last DCE news : Crisis in PG - Blue version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Guys, we just found the problem today and is fixed in development! Next update you will be safe turning on RWR :) Oh man, I'm really glad to hear that. Nice work! :thumbup: I'm curious though what the problem was? And do you know if it will be part of the upcoming 1.5 update? Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teeter Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Oh man, I'm really glad to hear that. Nice work! :thumbup: I'm curious though what the problem was? And do you know if it will be part of the upcoming 1.5 update? It is unlikely that it will come in the update this Friday, but never say never. I hope I am wrong. The issue was with the initialization (or rather, uninitialized) char pointer for an RWR type. Basically we just needed to change the way it was initialized. /Gregory Smiddy Programming Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 It is unlikely that it will come in the update this Friday, but never say never. I hope I am wrong. The issue was with the initialization (or rather, uninitialized) char pointer for an RWR type. Basically we just needed to change the way it was initialized. Alright, thanks for the answer! Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gospadin Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 The issue was with the initialization (or rather, uninitialized) char pointer for an RWR type. Basically we just needed to change the way it was initialized. *cough* http://cppcheck.sourceforge.net/ *cough* My liveries, mods, and missions for DCS:World M-2000C English Cockpit | Extra Beacons Mod | Nav Kneeboard | Community A-4E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gospadin Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 yea, just nudging you in the ribs please keep up the update pace, it's coming along nicely! My liveries, mods, and missions for DCS:World M-2000C English Cockpit | Extra Beacons Mod | Nav Kneeboard | Community A-4E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuya6104 Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 Crash Log #5Logs.rar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Zeus67 Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Crash Log #6 What were the conditions of the crash? Also on which DCS version? "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kivech Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 I seem to be suffering from CTDs at times as well. However, in my case, I'm not getting any log files. Is there a way I can force it to create a log file when it crashes? Running Windows 10 x64 with DCS 1.5.3 (non steam version). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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