VincentLaw Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 (edited) EB used to comment and reply then and when on various topics, just like any other forum user. Not even that is happening anymore.I kind of agree with Flagrum's sentiment. I think that "Valve PR policy" or whatever they are doing now is a mistake. (for that matter, ED changing their PR policy a couple of times a year is a mistake too. I never know what to expect from ED PR because it is different every time I look). I think the success of Minecraft can be taken as a case study for the power of strong community interaction. That game took off not because of the quality of the game, but because of his stellar community interaction. Early on Notch was blogging and tweeting daily, and replying to comments of his users, which helped keep interest in the game high. Star Citizen is good example of what focused PR can do. There is a large number of people that will claim it is the best thing in the world, and spend a lot of money on a game that isn't even released yet. I realize that browsing the forums takes time, which translates to money, but this quote is relevant: “A man who stops advertising to save money is like a man who stops a clock to save time.” – Henry Ford Maintaining a forum presence is essentially advertising, and it is probably a lot more cost effective than that TV spot ED payed for. If you are really passionate about your product, then it is something you shouldn't mind doing in your spare time too. Edited March 11, 2014 by VincentLaw [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted March 11, 2014 ED Team Share Posted March 11, 2014 ED will give updates when they are ready, always has and always will be the way. Either except that and enjoy it or come on the forums everyday and complain about it :) content coming out recently has been faster than at any other time, as a hungry customer we are always wanting more. We create the advertising with the constant forum posts, many of us religiously follow these post's and you learn to except it, or burn yourself out lol 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagrum Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 ED will give updates when they are ready, always has and always will be the way. Either except that and enjoy it or come on the forums everyday and complain about it :) content coming out recently has been faster than at any other time, as a hungry customer we are always wanting more. We create the advertising with the constant forum posts, many of us religiously follow these post's and you learn to except it, or burn yourself out lol The lack of general "progress updates" is one thing. But even if people have concrete questions (like myself in posting #1) - how can they be adressed if nobody reads them? (And yes, besides that I doubt it would help much, I refuse to use PMs for this kind of stuff - stuff that might be of interest to others as well) And this is only recently becoming more of an issue, imo. EvilBivol, statistics over all: Posts Per Day: 1.68 statistics 2014: 1 posting in over 2 months THAT is what concerns me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted March 11, 2014 ED Team Share Posted March 11, 2014 wasn't your first question answered by billy crusher in the post you linked ? http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1974754&postcount=6 Yes, AI door gunners has been disabled for HAI and works only on human controlled UH-1H. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagrum Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 (edited) wasn't your first question answered by billy crusher in the post you linked ? http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1974754&postcount=6 No. The posting I linked to in posting #1 of this thread was a follow up to the initial issue that BillyCrusher brought up with his answer (your link). The issue was, Huey door gunners don't work for AI controlled helos. BillyCrusher stated, that this was by design. (edit: more precise: deliberately disabled) The question I am trying to get an answer for for several weeks now is: what lead to that design decision? Why deliberately making door gunners useless for AI helos? Or is it just still WIP? (http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=119449) Edited March 11, 2014 by Flagrum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentLaw Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 (edited) If it was to reduce the AI load of Hueys, that can now be done by the mission creator since door gunners can be removed from the aircraft. Anyone who places door gunners on an aircraft is doing so for the deliberate reason of wanting them to shoot at things. For them to not work is illogical and misleading, but I understand if this is a workaround for some problem or simply awaiting implementation. Edited March 11, 2014 by VincentLaw [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted March 11, 2014 ED Team Share Posted March 11, 2014 (edited) The question I am trying to get an answer for for several weeks now is: what lead to that design decision? Why deliberately making door gunners useless for AI helos? Or is it just still WIP? (http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=119449) I know it seems harsh so I apologise before hand, you got an answer to a question and you did not like the answer, so you made a new post to get feedback on why the decision was taken ? If so good luck with that, I have never seen an answer given to a question like that on any dev forum. Lots going on in the DCSWorld at the moment, our best bet is to be patient and allow things to unfold. I know it may seem a long wait, but it will be worth it I am sure. :) Edited March 11, 2014 by BIGNEWY Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagrum Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 I know it seems harsh so I apologise before hand, you got an answer to a question and you did not like the answer, so you made a new post to get feedback on why the decision was taken ? If so good luck with that, I have never seen an answer given to a question like that on any dev form. Lots going on in the DCSWorld at the moment, our best bet is to be patient and allow things to unfold. I know it may seem a long wait, but it will be worth it I am sure. :) Yes, I made a new post because I felt the question would not belong in the original OpenBeta bug report thread. And although I understand what you're saying, I had so far some positive exceptions(?) with questions to BST/EvilBivol (on top of my head, the back and forth about the spin-up delay of the miniguns come to my mind). And this issue at hand is not just some minor annoyance, it affects the functionality. A weapon that doesn't function is bugged and needs a fix. If that is not possible, we should at least know why. (imagine, the A-10C GAU/8 would suddenly stop working. You get to hear: that is by design. And ... what do you do now? :o) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagrum Posted March 29, 2014 Author Share Posted March 29, 2014 On their FB page: me: "hey, what is going on, why is nobody answering?" bst: "hi, we do answer! what exactly do you mean?" me: "<link to this thread>" bst: Into which dark corners did I poke with my question, what skeletons are there hidden in the closet? Is the answer really that embarassing? I. Don't. Get. It. But it is really starting to piss me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team PilotMi8 Posted March 29, 2014 ED Team Share Posted March 29, 2014 A weapon that doesn't function is bugged and needs a fix. If that is not possible, we should at least know why. Why: because it really is not enough developers. This issue was much more complicated than it seemed at first glance. We continue the theme of AI gunners later, sorry:(. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagrum Posted March 29, 2014 Author Share Posted March 29, 2014 (edited) Why: because it really is not enough developers. This issue was much more complicated than it seemed at first glance. We continue the theme of AI gunners later, sorry:(. So, this issue is just still work in progress? That information is all I was looking for ... (:doh:) Thank you. Edited March 29, 2014 by Flagrum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted March 29, 2014 ED Team Share Posted March 29, 2014 You got an answer Flagrum, we can all be happy now :P :) Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagrum Posted March 29, 2014 Author Share Posted March 29, 2014 You got an answer Flagrum, we can all be happy now :P :) Yes! :thumbup: Took a bit of time, though. But the thread can be closed ... before I continue to wonder why it took so long. :o) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 ... before I continue to wonder why it took so long. :o) "Good things come to those who wait" shame it tastes horrible.. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 This issue was much more complicated than it seemed at first glance. We continue the theme of AI gunners later, sorry:(. Somehow I suspect the multi-crew question has the same answer, except from ED. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team PilotMi8 Posted March 29, 2014 ED Team Share Posted March 29, 2014 Somehow I suspect the multi-crew question has the same answer, except from ED. exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom88 Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 exactly! HONESTY..........Thank You,So very Refreshing.:thumbup: Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 exactly! Thank you! ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentLaw Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Why: because it really is not enough developers. This issue was much more complicated than it seemed at first glance. We continue the theme of AI gunners later, sorry:(.I'm guessing this will be made easier at some point down the road. I know RRG has mentioned wanting to add flyables with gunner positions. A B-17 formation would be pretty helpless without working gunners. Hopefully the implementation is not completely specific to each party. Also, thanks for the info. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team PilotMi8 Posted March 29, 2014 ED Team Share Posted March 29, 2014 How to fly with a sling load (what awaits you):;) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradox Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 How to fly with a sling load (what awaits you):;) ohhhhh, you've done well today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kam Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Excellent! :thumbup: It's for Mi-8 as well? Intel 5820k | Asus X-99A | Crucial 16GB | Powercolor Devil RX580 8GB | Win 10 x64 | Oculus Rift | https://gallery.ksotov.co.uk Patiently waiting for: DCS: Panavia Tornado, DCS: SA-2 Guideline, DCS: SA-3 Goa, DCS: S-300 Grumble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobek Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 ^^^^ The community in a nutshell. :) Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team PilotMi8 Posted March 29, 2014 ED Team Share Posted March 29, 2014 Excellent! :thumbup: It's for Mi-8 as well? a bit later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yurgon Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 How to fly with a sling load (what awaits you):;) Sounds great, can't wait! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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