Andi31 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Hi, I've noticed that the tank-MGs are very strong. When I attack a tank with my gun (A-10C) I often get hardly damaged (burning engine, dead TGP, Gun, systems with just a short burst from the tank..) and sometimes (more tanks) I even get shot down. Even the AAA isn't as strong as the tanks, when it hits me I have some holes in my A-10 but not more. Yesterday a SAM hit me and I had no system crashes or dead engines/flaps! So, are the tanks simulated "realistic"? I think they're too strong (or the AAA isn't enough/or the A-10 is not sturdily enough) What do you think or what experience do you have with the tanks' strenght? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamblue Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Shoot while out of range from them. Use any missile, bomb or higher angle of attack when approaching them and pull the trigger a little earlier. Once you attack TURN. When approaching straight at them it is the same as if you were standing still. Very easy to hit. Also tanks tend to have a big gun machine gun on them. Some include the ma duce which can reach out and touch very far and shread your aluminum plane. Asus Sabertooth P67 Motherboard 2600k CPU, 16 gig DDR3, 1600. Samsung 830, 256 gig hard drive, GTX780 Video Card, Warthog Hotas, Razer Mamba mouse. Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals. Trackir 5, Verizon FIOS 25Meg Up/Down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Para_Bellum Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Don't fly over tanks when on a gun run. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom88 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Wait for RRG Studios to release The P-47D with 8...Yes 8 .50 Cal Machine Guns.It is well known in The IL2 Community that a .50 cal direct hit will flip a German Tiger Tank on it's back like a Upsidedown Turtle on it's shell:D Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRooDJeRo Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 It's also called a 'tank' for a reason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irregular programming Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 It's also called a 'tank' for a reason... Hey I have to put my goldfish somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRooDJeRo Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Hey I have to put my goldfish somewhere. Here.... quick .... take this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrysound Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 ha! Where is he? did he eject? ....i'm on a roll tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maturin Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Wait for RRG Studios to release The P-47D with 8...Yes 8 .50 Cal Machine Guns.It is well known in The IL2 Community that a .50 cal direct hit will flip a German Tiger Tank on it's back like a Upsidedown Turtle on it's shell:D There's no way in hell it's true, but whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadwell Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 .50 cals at a modern tank might scratch the paint... bust up any soft stuff they have sitting on the outside of the tank like shovels or extra gear... wheras 50 cals at an a10 will turn everything but the cockpit into rubble.... My youtube channel Remember: the fun is in the fight, not the kill, so say NO! to the AIM-120. System specs:ROG Maximus XI Hero, Intel I9 9900K, 32GB 3200MHz ram, EVGA 1080ti FTW3, Samsung 970 EVO 1TB NVME, 27" Samsung SA350 1080p, 27" BenQ GW2765HT 1440p, ASUS ROG PG278Q 1440p G-SYNC Controls: Saitekt rudder pedals,Virpil MongoosT50 throttle, warBRD base, CM2 stick, TrackIR 5+pro clip, WMR VR headset. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aginor Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Wait for RRG Studios to release The P-47D with 8...Yes 8 .50 Cal Machine Guns.It is well known in The IL2 Community that a .50 cal direct hit will flip a German Tiger Tank on it's back like a Upsidedown Turtle on it's shell:D LOL! Perhaps they flipped over a wooden tank decoy or something without noticing the difference. Decoys work, YAY! :D DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackDant Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 I do feel that, in the tradition of AIs everywhere, the tank MGs are too accurate. Shooting at a moving aircraft with a tank-mounted machine gun cannot be easy, and even worse for the coaxial one. Yet the AI hits more often than not if you get close enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
159th_Viper Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 I've noticed that the tank-MGs are very strong.... They are not. Actually, they are too easy to kill with less than 100 rounds needed sometimes: B7barPrsB5k&hd=1 All depends on how you engage them. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAFU Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 (edited) I think the TO is about the accuracy of the top mounted M2 0.5cal guns on the tanks. As the guns from a BRDM methinks they are manually operated by the crew, but I have more respect from these guns, than from a ZSU. IRL the tank commander would be worried about other stuff than trying to engage a jet with his spray gun, but I might be wrong. I was often surprised too, about the accuracy of the tanks MGs. Edited September 20, 2013 by SNAFU [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Unsere Facebook-Seite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Dragon Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Waiting to a (far) future to a realistic advandec armour model (AAM) ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis0079 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 all this will get looked at when DCS: Abrams comes out in a couple weeks It only takes two things to fly, Airspeed and Money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBot Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Tank mounted MGs, as well as most other turrent mounted guns, are way too accurate against air targets. It has been explained to me once by a programmer that this cannot be fixed without breaking the AI routines to engage ground targets, so I assume that the logice used is the same for both. Engaging aircraft with guns without a fire control system is very hard. So hard actually that the US Army uses a technique called volume fire. Here you do not try to lead a target but instead shoot at a fixed point ahead, hopefully letting the target pass through your stream of fire: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/44-8/ch5.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimeKilla Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Good info thanks. :thumbup: :joystick: YouTube :pilotfly: TimeKilla on Flight Sims over at YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeachAV8R Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 You need the awesome: A-10 Coloring Book A classic piece of strategic literature.. BeachAV8R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENO Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Always loved that commentary. "ENO" Type in anger and you will make the greatest post you will ever regret. "Sweetest's" Military Aviation Art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeachAV8R Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Always loved that commentary. Color me brown.. <g> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laud Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Tank mounted MGs, as well as most other turrent mounted guns, are way too accurate against air targets. It has been explained to me once by a programmer that this cannot be fixed without breaking the AI routines to engage ground targets, so I assume that the logice used is the same for both. Just read through the thread and noticed, that this is the only answer to the TOs question "Are tank mounted MGs are too strong?" while all the others (19!!) told him how to fly and fight... :lol: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming, Intel Core i7 9700k , 32gb Corsair DDR4-3200 Asus RTX 2070 super, Samsung 970 EVO Plus M2, Win10 64bit, Acer XZ321QU (WQHD) TM HOTAS Warthog, SAITEK Rudder Pedals, TIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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