The July 26th Wags Update! Thread

WIP

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1826957&postcount=86

The effect itself looks great, but that black smoke looks wierd. Shouldn't it be white or grey?

Maybe it is due to the camera facing the sun...

That almost looks like it could be under exposed shadow from the smoke. With the camera pointed at the sky it would tend to have a high shutter speed, even with the clouds. Seeing this makes me tend to think it still should be white.

Maybe its possible that not all flares are created equal?

EDIT. Also, it occurs to me that perhaps altitude affects the smoke colour based on the oxygen density? I know that connoisseurs of fire can tell a lot about it based on the colour of the smoke. Black smoke from steam locomotives used to mean that you had too much heat (or something) while white smoke meant you were starving it or letting too much water in, and a nice dark gray was the sweet spot.

Here you can see both, black and gray smoke. Imho it is caused by the position of light source, aka the sun :smilewink:

I remember photos being posted and speculation as to whether this is IR blocking smoke.

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=490642

Hehe. 2008! No idea how I remember that.

guys remeber its Work in Progress

guys remeber its Work in Progress

Even though.. It looks stunning..After all these years to have real flare look is really big step forward...Thanks ED.

guys remeber its Work in Progress

Yes, and now is the moment to speak.

When it´s done it´s late. :D

guys remeber its Work in Progress

I don't think anybody is trolling and whining that it sucks... yet.

Mostly, people are pondering what the goal is or should be for the final product, that is when how and why the smoke from flares would be black versus white.

Understanding the why is important for people making an educated appreciation of the quality of whats being done, even if we can have faith in those who do it. Many people are not satisfied with just assuming anything done is right, they want to know why its good and correct and that just deepens their appreciation for WHY its so damned good.

I believe this is rather common amongst hardcore flight simmers.

I prefer smoke flares in white :thumbup:

Yes, and now is the moment to speak.

 

When it´s done it´s late. :D

well ED fixes things, eventually.

I don't think anybody is trolling and whining that it sucks... yet.

 

Mostly, people are pondering what the goal is or should be for the final product, that is when how and why the smoke from flares would be black versus white.

 

Understanding the why is important for people making an educated appreciation of the quality of whats being done, even if we can have faith in those who do it. Many people are not satisfied with just assuming anything done is right, they want to know why its good and correct and that just deepens their appreciation for WHY its so damned good.

 

I believe this is rather common amongst hardcore flight simmers.

Just saying so it doesnt turn into another Nevada unjustified criticism thing, thanks to which we will now have no Nevada updates.

Though you could say if you're openly showing your not yet finished work, you should expect, and be ready for it to be critiqued.

What makes you say we will have no Nevada updates? We had one recently and I don't recall seeing anything stating there would be no others.

What makes you say we will have no Nevada updates? We had one recently and I don't recall seeing anything stating there would be no others.

Comes from this posting by Wags. I believe there is a misunderstanding by some people, he merely said no more WIP images, he never said he's not going to give any updates on Nevada.

We'll be holding off on future work in progress images of Nevada until it is further along.

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1817353&postcount=107

Personally I don't really care about a future Nevada update. I would much rather like the current version to be hotfixed to a playable state again (1.2.5 w/ FC3 for example - the A-10a is no longer playable due to missing functions - ie. pitch/roll trims).

Personally I don't really care about a future Nevada update. I would much rather like the current version to be hotfixed to a playable state again (1.2.5 w/ FC3 for example - the A-10a is no longer playable due to missing functions - ie. pitch/roll trims).

Good question and will be interesting when we see one type of smoke in the air.

ditto. The A-10A is quite the mess.

I find it surprising they are selling the A-10a in the current state with 1.25. i would be quite angry if I paid the money for something that had so many issues. The AFM should be rolled back until resolved.

Update 2 for 1.2.5 is being worked on that has the most emphasis on resolving A-10A issues.

Update 2 for 1.2.5 is being worked on that has the most emphasis on resolving A-10A issues.

If I give you an e-hug every time you post relevant information, can I convince you to ignore the meanies on these forums that make you wanna stop telling us stuff?